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- From: Matt Harris <mattharr@nando.net>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech
- Subject: Re: Why Amiga sucks and why it does't
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:20:35 -0500
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- ceraldi@ibm.net wrote:
- > Although networking is a must for business, for the home,
- > it is just coolness points. It is true that 95 is good enough (to replace 3.11),
- > and that NT is good (for those with $3000 and who do not want to run any
- > of the 16 bit Windows apps they have or games that are currently available).
- > The Amiga definately needs a good browser -- no argument there! However,
- > if people expect Amiga to match the prices that you quote above, then the Amiga
- > is finished. There is no way in the world, AT can accomplish what you expect
- > as far as pricing is concerned.
-
- I would have to agree with Greg... I love my 4000, it does real neat things, but I find myself
- using my Pentium clone system way more than the 4000!, and usually just to play with; not
- business stuff.
- If AT cannot lower the prices, they will die. read on...
-
- > Mac users for years have paid more to get a bit less,
- > but to get a machine that they want to work on. Apple is licensing their technology
- > because that is what is needed to lower the costs of working on a Mac system. It may
- > not work for them, but they are trying. Many of the parts you state above are made in
- > China and other Asian countries by hundreds if not thousands of companies. A
- > motherboard
- > for $170? A good Pentium name-brand motherboard made in the US can cost up to $500.
-
- Just bought a genuine Intel pentium motherboard (2-port EIDE, 2 16550 Serial, 1 EPP Parallel,
- PS/2 mouse, PCI, and even a infra-red receiver/transmitter built into the motherboard for $189
- at a local computer dealer
-
- > A generic minitower case? Which name brand computer manufacturer you know uses a generic
- > case? 6X Cdrom -- I'd bet it is not a name brand either.
-
- Who needs a "name brand" case? I have noticed that most "ComputerDoodle" cases are far
- superior than "name brand" cases, employing more drive space, more options, and even a nifty
- little dumb (but programmable) speed display. And these cases that I have put together have
- been out-lasting electronics assemblies (namely power supplpies) that we have in other
- computers around the office, including a bad power supply from an IBM PS/ValuePoint and several
- Dell 450 machines.
- And I just purchased a 6x CD-ROM driver from the same retailer that I bought the pentium MB
- from - paid $170 for it. Brand? Well, I don't know of too many people who wouldn't consider
- TEAC a brand name... And this drive DOES read CD-I (greenbook format as well as whitebook)
- that so many drives dont.
-
- > Amigas have always and will always
- > cost a lot of money for a decent system. When one company is making the parts and is the sole
- > manufacturer of the computers, it costs a great deal of money to manufacture per unit. Maybe
- > It is not that they company is trying to rip the consumer off. It is true that Commodore
- > when they were big and strong could have produced lower costs than they did, but
- > to expect AT to come in and meet those prices you quote? It is impossible from a manufacturing perspective.
- > Yes, they can reduce the cost by making a design that uses parts that conform to the standards ie. PCI
- > so that our video cards don't cost $700 compared to $300-$400, but if you want an Amiga that tries to
- > break new ground like in the past, you'll have to pay for it.
- >
- > James.
-
- That, I am afraid, will be the downfall of the Amiga. She is a good old freind (since 1987),
- and I will greatly miss her. She was far ahead of the current technology for several years,
- but unfortunately, her foster parents didn't let her grow. Her newer parents show promise, and
- I only hope that they suceed, so that I may once again enjoy late night dates with her. But
- unfortunately, I have grown, her peers have grown, but she tripped several thousand yards back.
-
- -Matt
-